In this episode Andy is in the hot seat, handing control of this episode to Cathy and Steven of The Changes Ahead Podcast and answering questions instead of asking them!

Andy talks to Cathy and Steven about what it means to bring a bit of heaven down to earth, creativity, how his life has shifted over the years, particularly in areas of faith, and about his growing understanding that the need to always be right is not something that is serving the church particularly well.  

Listen to this conversation at downtoearthconversations.com or Search 'Down to Earth Conversations' wherever you get your podcasts.

This interview originally appeared on The Changes Ahead podcast back in March. If you enjoy this, check out the many other fantastic conversations on The Changes Ahead - here's how they describe the heart of their podcast:

"It is no secret that the church in the West is in decline and there seems to have been unending talk about the church needing to change. Despite this, the number of sustainable alternatives or even smaller changes to what most would be familiar with as church is tragically low. This podcast is capturing thoughts of people who can see the Changes Ahead of us. Together we’ll be challenged, provoked even, by the views of people who are thinking about how the church might thrive going forward. So we invite you to join co-hosts Cathy Marston and Steven Goulstone as we imagine the Changes Ahead."